Is my beef with Bet21.com really about the deposit bonus or is it something deeper?
Let’s look at the facts shall we?
My initial deposits that qualified me for the bonus money goes back to August 2006 (7 months ago). From September to February I have played in over 700 games (SNG & tourneys). During that time I questioned when the deposit bonuses would be released and twice it was answered by reputable people:
On November 19, 2006 this post was made by Joep:
"All players who signed up when Bet 21 first came on line, will receive all their due bonuses retro active from Day 1 of their deposit. As this will take some addition time to check all play from the beginning, they have told me ALL owed bonus money will be resolved by Jan. 1, 2007, at the latest."
http://www.blackjacktournaments.com/bb/showthread.php?t=2860
Then again on January 5, 2007, this quote was posted by Hollywood Dave:
The GOOD news is that not only is the retroactive bonus $$$ STILL a priority there, but now the affiliate program has been expanded as well -- which means that soon people like Ken Smith, for instance, can just create their own bonus codes (such as 'KINGKEN') that new players can enter to receive personalized bonuses, etc...The BAD news is that all of these changes -- bonus money, affiliate codes, etc -- are still a few weeks off. Projections now have been revised to the beginning of February, rather than the beginning of January as originally anticipated
http://www.blackjacktournaments.com/bb/showthread.php?t=3069
[Links are provided as to prove that I haven’t done any “fancy” editing]
As of March 27, 2007 I don’t believe anyone has had their pending deposit dollars converted to real cash by playing BJ.
But wait you say I should just go to a poker table and grind it out to get my bonus money? Well how do you explain this link from Bet21.com?
http://www.bet21.com/_htmls/game/blackjack-bonus-dollars.html
Now I ask you this, if the people in charge of Bet21.com lie to their surrogate representatives like Joep and Hollywood Dave – basically hanging them out to dry – what makes you think that they give a rats ass about you or I?
The argument goes: It’s (Bet21.com) the only game in town so don’t rock the boat.
To those people my response is this:
Let’s look at the facts shall we?
My initial deposits that qualified me for the bonus money goes back to August 2006 (7 months ago). From September to February I have played in over 700 games (SNG & tourneys). During that time I questioned when the deposit bonuses would be released and twice it was answered by reputable people:
On November 19, 2006 this post was made by Joep:
"All players who signed up when Bet 21 first came on line, will receive all their due bonuses retro active from Day 1 of their deposit. As this will take some addition time to check all play from the beginning, they have told me ALL owed bonus money will be resolved by Jan. 1, 2007, at the latest."
http://www.blackjacktournaments.com/bb/showthread.php?t=2860
Then again on January 5, 2007, this quote was posted by Hollywood Dave:
The GOOD news is that not only is the retroactive bonus $$$ STILL a priority there, but now the affiliate program has been expanded as well -- which means that soon people like Ken Smith, for instance, can just create their own bonus codes (such as 'KINGKEN') that new players can enter to receive personalized bonuses, etc...The BAD news is that all of these changes -- bonus money, affiliate codes, etc -- are still a few weeks off. Projections now have been revised to the beginning of February, rather than the beginning of January as originally anticipated
http://www.blackjacktournaments.com/bb/showthread.php?t=3069
[Links are provided as to prove that I haven’t done any “fancy” editing]
As of March 27, 2007 I don’t believe anyone has had their pending deposit dollars converted to real cash by playing BJ.
But wait you say I should just go to a poker table and grind it out to get my bonus money? Well how do you explain this link from Bet21.com?
http://www.bet21.com/_htmls/game/blackjack-bonus-dollars.html
Now I ask you this, if the people in charge of Bet21.com lie to their surrogate representatives like Joep and Hollywood Dave – basically hanging them out to dry – what makes you think that they give a rats ass about you or I?
The argument goes: It’s (Bet21.com) the only game in town so don’t rock the boat.
To those people my response is this:
Why don’t you play 6:5 BJ or better yet even money BJ? At some casino’s it’s the only game in the house. Do you think Joep would ever play even money BJ? How about Hollywood? Noman, would you sit down at a SuperFun 21 BJ game and play because it was the only one in town?
I think not!
But we do it blindly with Bet21.com. Why?
BECAUSE IT’S THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN RIGHT?
Now I don’t mean to get political but there is some analogy here with our current administration and the Iraq War.
In the beginning we invaded Iraq based on the intelligence and WMD. Since that time we haven’t found WMD. In the news now is the revelation about Pat Tillman, the former Arizona Cardinal pro football player who enlisted in the special forces and was killed in Afghanistan by friendly fire – that wasn’t what was initially reported. In fact Pat Tillman’s death was used as a recruiting aid at the time. Only now are the “facts” being made public.
My point is this: With so much disinformation the American public is saying, “how can we trust anything that comes out of this administration?” This issue is not how Pat Tillman was killed (Pat Tillman is a hero regardless) but why we, the American public, were lied to in the beginning.
Bet21.com is using the same tactics as the current White House Administration. Stonewall, ignore, abuse of power. Therefore in this environment the same mistrust is being bread and spread. The lack of communication from Bet21.com is deafening! How much longer will they continue to ignore their customers. How much longer will they simply pretend that there is no problem and that it doesn't exist?
I think not!
But we do it blindly with Bet21.com. Why?
BECAUSE IT’S THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN RIGHT?
Now I don’t mean to get political but there is some analogy here with our current administration and the Iraq War.
In the beginning we invaded Iraq based on the intelligence and WMD. Since that time we haven’t found WMD. In the news now is the revelation about Pat Tillman, the former Arizona Cardinal pro football player who enlisted in the special forces and was killed in Afghanistan by friendly fire – that wasn’t what was initially reported. In fact Pat Tillman’s death was used as a recruiting aid at the time. Only now are the “facts” being made public.
My point is this: With so much disinformation the American public is saying, “how can we trust anything that comes out of this administration?” This issue is not how Pat Tillman was killed (Pat Tillman is a hero regardless) but why we, the American public, were lied to in the beginning.
Bet21.com is using the same tactics as the current White House Administration. Stonewall, ignore, abuse of power. Therefore in this environment the same mistrust is being bread and spread. The lack of communication from Bet21.com is deafening! How much longer will they continue to ignore their customers. How much longer will they simply pretend that there is no problem and that it doesn't exist?
If we can't trust a company to make good on it's INITIAL promises, i.e., the Deposit Bonus - How can we trust them to live up to any one of their other promises - like a FAIR game?
How do you KNOW there isn’t a skew in the cards being dealt? How do you know that you aren’t being tracked? How do you know that your money will be returned to you? Were you part of the Neteller fiasco? How do you know that Bet21.com has enough funds to cut you that check? How do you know…..?
Trust is the answer and at this juncture Bet21.com has used up their goodwill …..
How do you KNOW there isn’t a skew in the cards being dealt? How do you know that you aren’t being tracked? How do you know that your money will be returned to you? Were you part of the Neteller fiasco? How do you know that Bet21.com has enough funds to cut you that check? How do you know…..?
Trust is the answer and at this juncture Bet21.com has used up their goodwill …..
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